1. 13:35 13th Aug 2012

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    Reblogged from porcedex

    porcedex:

    in-the-right:

    Whoa.

    I’m afraid your vehemence and demands are where the productivity of this conversation ends (And in your world of moral relativism, my God is still absolutely wrong and “disgusting”?). So I’m going to wrap this up, try to make it short and sweet.

    I have learned from…

    Spoiler- The evidence is not valid.  Here’s an example.  This is the site’s assertion that human language is evidence of the existence of god:

    Language is one of the main things that separates man from the animals. No animal is capable of achieving anything like human speech, and all attempts to teach chimpanzees to talk have failed. Evolutionists have no explanation for the origin of human language. However, the Bible does. It says that the first man, Adam, was created able to speak. The Bible also explains why we have different human languages, as God had to “confuse” the common language being used in Babel after the flood, in order to force people to spread out around the world as He wanted. This was only a “surface” confusion though, as all languages express the same underlying basic ideas and concepts, enabling other languages to be learned and understood.

    Because never before has an animal ever been known to make a sound.  They certainly don’t utilize different tones, vowel/consonant sounds, or other methods of communication.  And everyone knows that birds such as parrots and crows are completely incapable of mimicking human language- that’s “something like human speech” right there.

    Here is the link to a video clip demonstrating elephants using sounds(albeit ones that we can’t hear.. or is that just the atheists playing a trick on us?) to communicate.  They also use logic and reasoning to solve a problem.

    A religious person would want to trivialize child abuse to try and prove their point.  Totally “legit.”

    A few problems there.

    "Evolutionists have no explanation for the origin of human language." Uh, no, completely wrong. Language evolved. There you go.

    "God had to ‘confuse’ the common language being used in Babel after the flood, in order to force people to spread out around the world as He wanted." Oh, really? I thought he was trying to prevent them from building something in his yard. I’ve never heard that story interpreted any way other than "God was mad that they were building a tower to heaven, so he gave them all different languages as punishment." Fuck off.

    "…all languages express the same underlying basic ideas and concepts, enabling other languages to be learned and understood." Clearly whoever wrote this knows absolutely nothing about linguistics. I’m not a linguist, but I know enough to say that languages usually only share a common structure if they also share a root language. Latin-based languages have a lot of similarities, because they all came from Latin, but they have very little in common with Arabic or Chinese.

    The conversation’s pretty much done at this point, but seriously? That’s just silly.