whenever i see these post-apocalyptic films set in the USA where everyone is pretty much just killing each other with no mention of other nations i always just assume that the rest of the world is fine and has learnt how to resume life as normal
I do not understand this “male privilege” bullshit.
What. Fucking. Privileges. Do. Men. Have.???????
Name them. I swear, I challenge you to name these “male privileges” and be able to prove them.
Come on, I fucking dare you.
Oh boy. Well, as a man, I’ll tell you my male privilege.
My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants, are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the odds are skewed.
I can be confident in the fact that my co-workers won’t think that I was hired/promoted because of my sex - despite the fact that it’s probably true.
If I ever am promoted when a woman of my peers is better suited for the job, it is because of my sex.
If i ever fail at my job or career, it won’t be seen as a blacklist against my sex’s capabilities.
I am far less likely to face sexual harassment than my female peers.
If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective, chances are people will think I did a better job.
If I am a teen or an adult, and I stay out of prison, my odds of getting raped are relatively low.
On average, I’m taught that walking alone after dark by myself is less than dangerous than it is for my female peers.
If I choose not to have children, my masculinity will not be questioned.
If I do have children but I do not provide primary care for them, my masculinity will not be questioned.
If I have children and I do care for them, I’ll be praised even if my care is only marginally competent.
If I have children and a career, no one will think I’m selfish for not staying at home.
If I seek political office, my relationship with my children or who I deem to take care of them will more often not be scrutinized by the press.
My elected representatives are mostly people of my own sex. The more prestigious the position, the more this is true.
When i seek out “the person in charge”, it is likely that they will be someone of my own sex. The higher the position, the more often this is true.
As a child, chances are I am encouraged to be more active and outgoing than my sisters.
As a child, I could choose from an almost infinite variety of children’s media featuring positive, active, non-stereotyped heroes of my own sex. I never had to look for it; male protagonists were (and are) the default.
As a child, chances are I got more teacher attention than girls who raised their hands just as often.
If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether or not it has sexist overtones. (Nobody’s going to ask if I’m upset because I’m menstruating.)
I can turn on the television or glance at the front page of the newspaper and see people of my own sex widely represented.
If I’m careless with my financial affairs it won’t be attributed to my sex.
If I’m careless with my driving it won’t be attributed to my sex.
I can speak in public to a large group without putting my sex on trial.
Even if I sleep with a lot of women, there is little to no chance that I will be seriously labeled a “slut,” nor is there any male counterpart to “slut-bashing.”
I do not have to worry about the message my wardrobe sends about my sexual availability.
My clothing is typically less expensive and better-constructed than women’s clothing for the same social status. While I have fewer options, my clothes will probably fit better than a woman’s without tailoring.
The grooming regimen expected of me is relatively cheap and consumes little time.
If I buy a new car, chances are I’ll be offered a better price than a woman buying the same car. The same goes for other expensive merchandise.
If I’m not conventionally attractive, the disadvantages are relatively small and easy to ignore.
I can be loud with no fear of being called a shrew. I can be aggressive with no fear of being called a bitch.
I can ask for legal protection from violence that happens mostly to men without being seen as a selfish special interest, since that kind of violence is called “crime” and is a general social concern. (Violence that happens mostly to women is usually called “domestic violence” or “acquaintance rape,” and is seen as a special interest issue.)
I can be confident that the ordinary language of day-to-day existence will always include my sex. “All men are created equal,” mailman, chairman, freshman, he.
My ability to make important decisions and my capability in general will never be questioned depending on what time of the month it is.
I will never be expected to change my name upon marriage or questioned if I don’t change my name.
The decision to hire me will not be based on assumptions about whether or not I might choose to have a family sometime soon.
Every major religion in the world is led primarily by people of my own sex. Even God, in most major religions, is pictured as male.
Most major religions argue that I should be the head of my household, while my wife and children should be subservient to me.
If I have a wife or live-in girlfriend, chances are we’ll divide up household chores so that she does most of the labor, and in particular the most repetitive and unrewarding tasks.
If I have children with my girlfriend or wife, I can expect her to do most of the basic childcare such as changing diapers and feeding.
If I have children with my wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the career sacrificed should be hers.
Assuming I am heterosexual, magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of media is filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to me sexually. Such images of men exist, but are rarer.
In general, I am under much less pressure to be thin than my female counterparts are. If I am over-weight, I probably suffer fewer social and economic consequences for being fat than over-weight women do.
If I am heterosexual, it’s incredibly unlikely that I’ll ever be beaten up by a spouse or lover.
Complete strangers generally do not walk up to me on the street and tell me to “smile.”
Sexual harassment on the street virtually never happens to me. I do not need to plot my movements through public space in order to avoid being sexually harassed, or to mitigate sexual harassment.
On average, I am not interrupted by women as often as women are interrupted by men.
On average, I will have the privilege of not knowing about my male privilege.
And lastly, I am taken as a more credible feminist than my female peers, despite the fact that the feminist movement is not liberating to my sex.
This is male privilege.
THIS. THIS IS HOW YOU BE A MALE FEMINIST.
Also if we men have more than a passing knowledge on a subject we are talking about we are looked upon as experts even if there are females present that have far superior knowledge than ours,
People will come to us automatically for advice to do with anything technical, financial etc.
If a man cries, he is seen as being “in touch” with his emotions and generally applauded, if a woman is in tears more often than not they are seen as attention seekers and emotionally unstable.
A man stands up and shouts out to the world that a woman’s body is her own and no one has the right to tell her what to do with it, he is called a hero etc. A woman does the self same thing and is largely ignored or shamed by certain sections of society.
These are further examples of Male Privilege and why we need feminism.
Hate breeds hate is probably the most bullshit thing I’ve ever heard.
You know what hasn’t changed the world? Simply sitting by and hoping it changes.
You know what HAS changed the world? Revolution, protests, marches, anger.
Anger and passion have changed the world and I’m going to be damned if someone tries to silence me or anyone else by talking about “hate breeds hate”
Shut the fuck up.
Do you hear the people hum? Humming the song of complacent men. It is the music of the people who will probably be slaves again… When the beating of your heart echoes the beating of the “peace and love” drum (made in China), there is a world about to end when tomorrow comes!
Will you join in our thumb-twiddling? Who will be weak and sit with me? Beyond the barricade is there a world you can’t be bothered to see? Then join in the quiet circle of “not wanting to be too pushy” that will rob you of your right to be free!
If you care more about the life of the cow that made my burger than the well-being of the migrant workers that picked your salad, you’re being kind of dumb.
The cow did not make your burger, let us trace the steps backwards so you do not look “dumb” like we apparently do.
That burger was made by an underpaid food service employee.
Before that it was formed in some packing planet by an underpaid worker.
Before that it was cut from the body of a cow in some slaughterhouse by an underpaid worker.
Before that it was a living, feeling, terrified cow that was killed by an underpaid worker in a dangerous factory farm.
Before that the cow was living on a farm lot where she was bred and fed by underpaid workers.
The food that cow had to eat was grown and harvested by underpaid workers. (Would you like lettuce, tomato and pickles with that?)
After aaalllllll that, you made a post trying to call out the 2% of the human race who buys some kale all the while you’re chowing on a chain of death and oppression so long you may as well go out and cut the throats and drink the blood of migrant workers directly, you stupid, ignorant toady.
“Don’t criticize or judge other people. Regard everyone else as an angel. Justify their mistakes and weaknesses, and condemn only yourself as the worst sinner. This is step one in any kind of spiritual life.”—
I’d like to add something here. The bit that says “condemn only yourself as the worst sinner” is pretty awful. I mean, it’s great to treat other people well, but anyone who encourages people to think badly of themselves is kind of a shitty person.
If you’re going to stop judging people harshly, you should include yourself in that. Thinking of yourself as a terrible person is really unhealthy and can be extremely harmful in the long run. Everyone, including yourself, makes mistakes and is deserving of forgiveness.
Just wanted to make sure I got that out there. It’s important that people don’t hate themselves.
“We praise people for being “naturally” smart, too, “naturally” athletic, and etc. But studies continue to show, as they have for some time now, that it is generally healthier to praise schoolchildren for being hardworking, than for being naturally gifted. We know now that to emphasize a child’s inherent ability places pressure on that child to continue to be accidentally talented, which is something that is hard for anyone to control. When the children who are applauded for their natural skills fail, they are shown to take the failure very personally. After all, the process of their success has always seemed mysterious and basic and inseparable from the rest of their identity, so it must be they who are failing as whole people. When students are instead complimented and rewarded for their effort and improvement, they tend to not be so hard on themselves. When they fail, they reason, “Well, I’ll work harder next time.” They learn that they are capable of success, rather than constantly automatically deserving of it, and they learn simultaneously that they are bigger and more complex than their individual successes or failures.”—
So I need to talk about Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
I’m thrilled with everything about the movie. There’s been an uncomfortable attitude in the Marvel movies and especially in Agents of SHIELD where the secretive organization spying on the entire world is treated like the good guy. The first episode of Agents of SHIELD actually treats the hacktivist trying to take down the Orwellian organization like a misguided child, and the message seems to be “trust the government, even if it looks like we’re evil, because we know what we’re doing.” It’s been the biggest complaint I’ve had about the Marvel franchise recently.
Captain America blows this out of the water. The titular character pointedly disagrees with Nick Fury about the heavy surveillance, and calls him out on the somewhat-evil concept of “eliminating threats” before they have a chance to actually be a threat. It was very similar (I think purposefully) to the current attitude of the American military, which is to bomb first and ask questions ten years later. In any other movie, I might have expected the surveillance state to be the hero and defeat some sort of terrorist threat, but in Captain America, the surveillance state is the terrorist villain.
I don’t want to give any spoilers, but I was incredibly happy with the message of the movie. It isn’t unbearably preachy, but it gets the point across that over-militarization for the sake of national security is a really goddamn bad idea. I love it and it was wonderful.
Do we use the very concept of “humane” correctly when applying it to animals? We explore the answer in this post.
One of my recent posts over at One Green Planet about whether or not we’re justified in labeling animal products “humane” at all, and questioning why so many people are willing to buy humane animal products without really asking themselves what they believe humane even means.
Please feel free to share as well as share any thoughts you have on the matter. What do you believe “humane” really means, and is this consistent with animal slaughter or use?
I always find a good view of a city at night very comforting. Seeing the patterns of streetlights and apartment windows and neon signs is really beautiful from a distance, like from a highway or even better from an airplane. It gives me a strong feeling of relief, somehow; seeing cities at night always feels like home to me.
It probably comes from all the family vacations my family used to go on. Every summer, we would drive to someplace or other for about a week during the summer. Usually it was some cabin in the mountains in Virginia, but it varied a bit. In recent years, we’ve also occasionally driven long distances to visit family members who’ve moved away. But every year, no matter where we went, we would pass by New York City on the way. When we left, it was usually morning, and the city would be difficult to see through the fog from the water, but after the long journey home, seeing the lights of the city at night meant we were almost there. That feeling of spending over eight hours in a car and finally looking out the window to see the city lights and thinking, “I’m finally home,” seems to have stayed with me as I’ve grown up. Small towns make me uncomfortable. The further away from large population centers I am, the more isolated I feel. But no matter where I am, even a completely foreign city makes me feel at home when I see the lights at night.
Am I the only person who obsessively organizes the files on my computer? I have everything neatly stored in their own folders and subfolders and subsubfolders, and then I see other people’s desktops that look like someone vomited pixels on the screen and only made a half-hearted attempt to clean it up.
I frequently find myself unable to understand how other people computer.
So, I really liked the idea of Soycrates’ post about her favorite video game characters, and I think I want to write one of my own. Mostly just because it’s a fun thing to talk about and I need to write more. I’ll be working on the list for a while, and I’ll post it later.
I notice I’ve gotten a couple new followers recently who include “vegan” in their url.
Did I say something particularly interesting regarding veganism lately? I don’t recall being very vocal on that subject.
Well, let me give it a shot now. Um. You people eating animals and, like, stuff that came from an animal’s overworked udder. Um. Stop that. That’s kind of mean and also really gross. Also pigs supposedly taste extremely similar to human flesh, so, do you really want to be eating that?
does anyone else ever get really stressed over assignments and know that you should be doing them but you feel like you physically can’t stop procrastinating and that just stresses you out even more or is that just me
Nothing in my comment writes off half the population, not even remotely, read again - if anything, I'm adding to it. I pointed out a singular fact: jokes featuring these acts only spark any outrage when they target females. That's why the backlash is hypocritical, not it's substance per se, but its one-directional nature - it only gets triggered if a female is featured. The same offensive jokes featuring males -> no public outrage in sight. So no, they evidently don't "laugh just as hard".
Alright then, I’ll address this on a more charitable perspective.
Statistically speaking, far fewer males are sexually abused than females. That’s not meant to dismiss them, but when 1 out of 3 women experience sexual abuse by a conservative estimate, it’s hard to show that men experience anything near the same level of fear. So when someone jokes about male rape, they are being an asshole, but when they joke about female rape, they are perpetuating the systematic oppression of non-males in our society. There’s a totally different scale there.
Comedians make offensive jokes all the time. I won’t defend that, but they have a right to free speech and their audience has a right to laugh at it. The issue about rape jokes has nothing to do with whether individual people are offended; it’s because rape is the thing that all women are threatened with on a daily basis. When a man is raped it is a horrible thing, but when a woman is raped it is considered normal. That’s why the jokes are bad, not because they make fun of a terrible event, but because it reinforces this idea that women somehow deserve to be raped. Most men aren’t called whores for wearing the wrong clothes or going to a bar on the weekend. Most men aren’t terrified of walking to their cars alone at night. The fear of rape is not something that men commonly experience.
Having said that, I agree that rape jokes are awful no matter which gender they target. I don’t think I need to elaborate on that; rape is bad, don’t joke about it, the end. The reason comments like yours are so infuriating is because it adds nothing to the conversation. The implication that “men have it just as bad” is just wrong. We shouldn’t forget about other victims of rape (and I’ll take a moment to point out that transgendered men and women face the same issues and worse than what cis women have to deal with), but why would you choose this to argue for? The only comment necessary is the following:
"Don’t forget about the male and non-binary victims of rape, who deserve to be included in the discussion."
That’s it. No one will argue against that. For you to act as though men are somehow being ignored shows that you are ignorant of the issues at best. (Though this is a good time for me to apologize for assuming the worst.) Men aren’t being ignored, they just aren’t affected on nearly the same scale. It’s similar to issues of racism; no one gets angry when someone says “cracker” because it’s not a word with a history of violent oppression behind it. Am I making sense?
You’re right that we should keep everyone in mind, not just women. But please keep in mind the differences between what men and women face on the issue.
The fact is that some kind of imagined "moral prohibition" against joking about sexual or physical abuse women face is hypocritical - at least the joking about females even garners public outrage, you can joke about the physical and sexual abuse of men all you want, especially if they feature prisoners and boys being abused. Women and men will not bat an eyelash, it's funny. Do you know Chappele's 'Man Rape' bit? look the clip up. It's clever and enlightening, listen to the idiotic audience.
Whoa man, it took me a minute to even figure out what this was a response to. I’m assuming you’re reacting to the Jamie Kilstein quote I reblogged? (For anyone else reading this who didn’t see that, it was basically that rape jokes aren’t funny.)
I’ll start on a pleasant note. You do bring up an important issue; males are also physically and sexually abused, and it is a problem that should be addressed. However, bringing up an example of an audience laughing at male rape doesn’t prove anything, since they laugh just as hard at female rape.
But here’s where I’m going to get angry with you. The fact that men are also abused does not mean we should write off half of the population. It does not make the backlash against rape jokes hypocritical. What that means is that the issues addressed should be expanded to include everyone who is abused, not just but still including women. You brought up this valid issue in order to call outrage against rape jokes hypocritical. You don’t actually want to talk about men’s issues, you want people to shut up about women because “men have it just as bad.” If you give a single shit about anyone who has suffered abuse, regardless of gender, you should actually fucking do something about it, instead of using the issue to try to shut other people up.
You took an important point about equality and used it to support the status quo. Get off my blog.
"Once religion is brought up, the discussion ends, because nothing I say will ever trump 'God says so' in their mind. It’s an infuriating argument." That's actually not true in my experience. I made the point to an evangelical that I expected God would want us to be caretakers over animals in the same way that God is a caretaker of us. And then I eluded to the terrible conditions of factory farms. She was a coworker, so I had the opportunity to have lots of mini-debates (good spirited ones),
and eventually she came to at least understand my point of view. She said something like, “I guess I wouldn’t eat meat if I thought about it every day,” which was more honest than most people are.
Wow. That’s completely the opposite of my experience. I don’t have much to add, but that’s pretty great.
Though I would imagine that your beliefs regarding God would make it easier for you to discuss that sort of thing, whereas my general opinion of “There is no god” tends not to go over well. ^__^”
7. What’s your favourite Vegan/Vegetarian meal and what’s the recipe?
Oh man, it is so difficult for me to choose a favorite food. I think the thing I’ve been most successful at cooking (because my whole extended family loved it) was chickpea cutlets with spinach and asparagus. I got the recipe for chickpea cutlets from the Veganomicon; it’s basically just mashed up chickpeas plus a bunch of spices and wheat gluten, and you fry it in a pan. I just sauteed the spinach and asparagus together with garlic and lemon juice. It sounds really simple, but my family thought it was great and even asked to take some home with them, so I must have done something right…
16. Are your family also Vegan/Vegetarian? Regardless of the answer, how does this impact you?
No, and it grates on me sometimes. My immediate family doesn’t make a big deal out of it, except that my dad refuses to eat a meal without meat in it, so we have trouble agreeing on what to eat if we try discussing a family meal time thing. My extended family can be more frustrating about it; my grandpa refuses to learn how to even pronounce “vegan” and takes little jabs at me about it now and then (which is only upsetting because he’s otherwise a really sweet guy), and my uncle just loves to have heated discussions about politics and religion and stuff like that, so he can’t resist starting an argument about veganism whenever he can. Lots of my other family members are also very ignorant about it, and repeatedly ask me things like, “So wait… you only eat chicken or something?” But all in all, it’s just frustrating trying to explain things to them, which is actually a pretty good situation to be in. At least they’re asking questions, right?
21. Favourite animal activist and why?
Y’know, I don’t really follow any particular activists myself. Is that weird?
26. Which question frustrates/annoys you the most regarding being Vegan/Vegetarian?
Actually, I’m more frustrated by the statements people make at me. Questions might be stupid, but even stupid questions are meant to start a conversation, which I’m happy to have. But I’ve had people tell me things like, “God put animals on this earth for us to eat!” and I can’t respond in any way except fury to that statement. Once religion is brought up, the discussion ends, because nothing I say will ever trump “God says so” in their mind. It’s an infuriating argument.
4. Be honest, did you enjoy the taste of meat and/or dairy before giving it up?
5. What's your favourite dairy-free milk?
6. If you were to try and persuade someone to go Vegan/Vegetarian by showing them just 3 YouTube videos, what would you show them and why?
7. What's your favourite Vegan/Vegetarian meal and what's the recipe?
8. Do you take any vitamin supplements and if so what?
9. Favourite farmed animal and why?
10. Have you ever been to a farm sanctuary?
11. Do you sponsor any animals and if so what species and what organisation are they with?
15. Favourite Vegan/Vegetarian celebrity and why?
16. Are your family also Vegan/Vegetarian? Regardless of the answer, how does this impact you?
17. Put these in order of most important reasons to go Vegan/Vegetarian to least- For the sake of the animals, for the sake of the environment, for the sake of finance and for the sake of your health. Why did you choose this order?
20. Was your transition to becoming Vegan/Vegetarian gradual or done in one go?
21. Favourite animal activist and why?
25. What's the most common question/comment you receive regarding being Vegan/Vegetarian?
26. Which question frustrates/annoys you the most regarding being Vegan/Vegetarian?
27. What are your thoughts on the quote- The punishment should fit the crime with regards to animal cruelty?
28. Favourite cruelty free toiletries?
29. How do you feel about 'humane' farms eg. ones that genuinely allow their animals to roam freely until death?
30. If you had to persuade someone to become Vegan/Vegetarian in one short paragraph, what would you say?
Socialism:You have 2 cows and you give one to your neighbor.
Communism:You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and gives you some milk.
Fascism:You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and sells you some milk.
Nazism:You have 2 cows; the Government takes both and shoots you.
Bureaucratism:You have 2 cows; the Government takes both, shoots one, milks the other and throws the milk away..
Traditional Capitalism:You have 2 cows. You sell one and buy a bull. You herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and retire on the income.
An American Corporation:You have 2 cows. You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. Later, you hire a consultant to analyze why the cow dropped dead.
A French Corporation:You have 2 cows. You go on strike because you want three cows.
Japanese Corporation:You have 2 cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. You then create a clever cow cartoon image called Cowkimon and market them Worldwide.
An Italian Corporation:You have 2 cows, but you don't know where they are. You break for lunch.
A Swiss Corporation:You have 5000 cows. None of which belong to you. You charge others for storing them.
Chinese Corporation:You have 2 cows. You have 300 people milking them. You claim full employment, high bovine productivity, and arrest the newsman who reported the numbers.
An Iraqi Corporation:Everyone thinks you have lots of cows. You tell them that you have none. No one believes you and they bomb your arse. You still have no cows, but at least now you are part of a Democracy.......
Counter Culture:'Wow, dig it, like there's these 2 cows, man, grazing in the hemp field. You gotta have some of this milk!'
Surrealism:You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.
Apathyologism:You have 2 cows. You do not care.
Fatalist:You have 2 doomed cows...
Atheism:You have 2 cows. There is no God.
A West-Country Corporation:You have 2 cows. That one on the left is kinda cute.
A Brazilian Corporation:You have 2 cows. You pay taxes for 6 cows. You have to sell one cow in order to pay the taxes. Your remaining cow gets sick and dies while waiting for availability in the public vet hospital.
Russia:You have two cows. Since they are both female, if you happen to keep them in the same stable you will pay a 5,000 rouble fine for homosexual propaganda.
PETA:You have two cows. You kill them both. You then use naked women to convince other people that killing cows is wrong.
Moffat:You have two cows. Both of them are your daughters time traveling from the past where they had a brief love affair with Da Vinci making you the rightful Queen of England. As you assume the throne, you throw them off a building.
Hussie:You have 2 cows. You ask for another one. Instead of getting just 1 cow, you get 2,485,506 cows.
Romney:You have 2 cows. You are not the president of the united states.
Once-ler:You have 1 cow. Everyone decides to make 5 different versions of that cow.
Old Spice:You have 2 cows. The cows are now diamonds. I'm on a horse.
An Irish Corporation:You have a million cows because they're everywhere
Tumblr:You have 2 cows. You ship them together and make GIF posts screaming about how much you love your cows, but they should stop existing because they are so perfect.
Also Tumblr:I give you a hamburger.
Night Vale:You do NOT have two cows. Cows do not exist. What's a cow? Show me a cow! That's not a cow! Who let you in here?
Tom Hiddleston:You have two cows. You are very sorry for them.
Thranduil:You do not have two cows, you have an elk. Riding on two cows is not majestic. Also the dwarves are on fire.
Dwarves:You had two cows but now they're on fire.
Bilbo Baggins:You did not invite those two cows for dinner.
Cows:The shit you go through.
This post:Started off as a post that explained different goverments but then everything changed when the fire nation attacked
I’ve hit 130 followers again. The number’s fluctuated a bit around 125 for the last several months, but it’s never gone above 130. Just one more, and I would have more followers than I ever have before.
“For years mental health professionals taught people that they could be psychologically healthy without social support, that “unless you love yourself, no one else will love you.”…The truth is, you cannot love yourself unless you have been loved and are loved. The capacity to love cannot be built in isolation”—
Bruce D. Perry, M.D., Ph.D. — “The Boy Who Was Raised As A Dog” (via verthandi)
I’ve reblogged this too many times but here it is again.
“Ancient moon priestesses were called virgins. ‘Virgin’ meant not married, not belonging to a man - a woman who was ‘one-in-herself’. The very word derives from a Latin root meaning strength, force, skill; and was later applied to men: virile. Ishtar, Diana, Astarte, Isis were all called virgin, which did not refer to sexual chastity, but sexual independence. And all great culture heroes of the past, mythic or historic, were said to be born of virgin mothers: Marduk, Gilgamesh, Buddha, Osiris, Dionysus, Genghis Khan, Jesus - they were all affirmed as sons of the Great Mother, of the Original One, their worldly power deriving from her. When the Hebrews used the word, and in the original Aramaic, it meant ‘maiden’ or ‘young woman’, with no connotations to sexual chastity. But later Christian translators could not conceive of the ‘Virgin Mary’ as a woman of independent sexuality, needless to say; they distorted the meaning into sexually pure, chaste, never touched.”—Monica Sjoo, The Great Cosmic Mother: Rediscovering the Religion of the Earth (via tierdropp)
So, I have very recently (just yesterday, in fact) started playing Minecraft. It is a very difficult game and I keep being killed by zombies and I can’t find iron anywhere and it’s so weird that I’m already invested in making my house look nice.
Despite the propaganda, there is no scientifically valid health reason to avoid animal foods. Here are 5 reasons why vegan diets are a terrible idea.
I got into a ‘debate’ with a vegan today. While I was debating, he was throwing logical fallacies around, begging the question, providing false dilemmas and sticking his fingers in his ears while flopping down red herrings.
I am in no way patronizing vegans, but just as it bothers me when creationists say young earth creationism is science (and try to teach it as fact to ignorant people/children), it bothers me when vegans say their way of eating is the healthiest (and try to teach it as fact to ignorant people/children). It is certainly a step above the S.A.D (standard american diet: where you eat fast food three times a week and 31% more packaged food than fresh food). However those are not the only two ways humans can feed themselves (false dichotomy). Anyway, the article really says everything I have to say, so read that instead.
I don’t have the energy right now to handle this argument, but I just wanted to share this post since it was in the vegan tag. Please followers with more energy and willingness to look things up right now, refute this argument because it is so terribly done.
Alright, it’s time to respond to this. apostatecrusader and I squabbled over who would have to do the tedious job, and it looks like the task goes to me. It’s going to be brief and to the point. whoops
Claim 1: Vegans are deficient in “important nutrients”
Evidence A: “one study showing that a whopping 92% of vegans are deficient in this critical nutrient (b12)”
Debunking A: The study they link to in order to prove this claim also says this in the abstract: “However, their complete blood count values did not deviate greatly from those found for nonvegetarians” meaning that the “whopping” 92% of vegans who are deficient in b12 is the same percentage of the general population that is deficient in b12. b12 deficiency is very common. Vitamin b12 in animal products comes from the animal’s dietary habits, just as it would for a vegan consuming sources of b12. This means that unless the animal is eating high amounts of bacteria, which is generally frowned upon by standardized / factory farming, there is no notable source of b12 in the resulting food product. “Neither fungi, plants, nor animals are capable of producing vitamin B12. Only bacteria and archaea have the enzymes required for its synthesis, although many foods are a natural source of B12 because of bacterial symbiosis.” (source) Animals used for consumption do not generate the vitamin b12.
Evidence B: “Animal protein has all the essential amino acids… Vegans don’t get any animal protein, which can have negative effects on body composition”.
Debunking B:Here is a list of “12 Complete Vegan/Vegetarian Proteins”. A “complete protein" is a food that basically has every essential amino acid. For those who do not feel like eating these 12 foods every day, the simple idea of "protein combining" - eating your essential amino acids in different foods - is available. "Strict protein combining is not necessary; it is more important to eat a varied diet throughout the day." For more information on vegan and vegetarian protein, click here.
Evidence C, D, and E: Vegans don’t eat creatine, carsonine, or proper forms of omega-3 fatty acids.
Claim 2: There are no studies showing that veganism is better than any other diet.
Debunking 2 in general: there doesn’t need to be a study showing that veganism is better in order to prove that veganism isn’t terrible. Let’s suppose that veganism is no better or worse for your health than an animal-based diet. This would only mean that there are no health reasons why one should not go vegan. The health benefits of veganism do not have to be so superior to justify being vegan for ethical reasons.
Evidence A: “the Atkins diet causes greater improvements in pretty much all health markers”
Dr. Robert Eckel of the American Heart Association says that high-protein, low-carbohydrate diets put people at risk of heart disease. A long term study published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2006 found that while women on low-carb diets were generally healthier than those on high-carbohydrate diets, women eating more protein and fat from vegetable sources, rather than from animal sources, had a lower risk of heart disease.
A 2001 scientific review conducted by Freedman et al. and published in the peer reviewed scientific journal Obesity Research concluded that low-carb dieters’ initial advantage in weight loss was a result of increased water loss, and that after the initial period, low-carbohydrate diets produce similar fat loss to other diets with similar caloric intake.
The May 2004 Annals of Internal Medicine study showed that “minor adverse effects” of diarrhea, general weakness, rashes and muscle cramps “were more frequent in the low-carbohydrate diet group”.
Evidence B (direct quote): “Now, there are some studies showing health benefits and lower mortality in vegetarians and vegans, such as the Seventh-Day Adventist Studies (21, 22). The problem with these studies is that they are so-called observational studies. These types of studies can only demonstrate correlation, not causation. The vegetarians are probably healthier because they are more health conscious overall, eat more vegetables… It has nothing to do with avoiding animal foods.”
Debunking B: See Evidence B. (But seriously, they just admitted there’s evidence for vegetarians and vegans being healthy and this health having strong correlations to their diet.) For an article that first claims vegans were so unhealthy, it’s doing a bad job being consistent, as it just said vegetarians and vegans are healthier.
Claim 3: Proponents of Vegan Diets Use Fear-Mongering to Promote Cause
Debunking 3: Whether or not some people lie about vegan diets has nothing to do with a factual analysis of how healthy plant-based eating is. This claim is basically “veganism is bad because somebody lied to me!” which doesn’t make any sense. The perceived honesty of individual people matters much less than the following fact:
"A 2009 review of recent research indicated that vegan diets tend to be higher in dietary fibre, magnesium, folic acid, vitamin C, vitamin E, iron and phytochemicals, and lower in calories, saturated fat, cholesterol, long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin D, calcium, zinc and vitamin B12. Well-planned vegan diets appear to offer protection against certain degenerative conditions, including heart disease, and as of 2013 were regarded as appropriate for all stages of the life-cycle by the American Dietetic Association, the Australian National Health and Medical Research Council, and Dietitians of Canada."
Claim 4: Vegan diets might only work in the short term, not long term
Evidence A: (Paraphrased) If vegans online say that they feel healthier after going vegan, this is anecdotal evidence. It’s not real science. Furthermore, vegans also “recommend that people avoid added sugars, refined carbohydrates, processed vegetable oils and trans fats. Then they suggest that people stop smoking and start exercising. There are so many confounders here that can easily explain all the beneficial effects.”
Debunking A: Plant-based dieters may advocate this, or vegans on a diet, but plant-based eating does not entail living an extremely health-oriented lifestyle. Many vegans eat average diets that include sugars, carbs, processed oils and trans fats. Many vegans just on tumblr like to be known as “junk food vegans”. Vegan pizza, ice cream, and burgers are sold in grocery stores, and hey, somebody’s eating them. Not all vegans are extreme fitspo health-addicts. But most are healthier than the average omnivore. You know, just anecdotally speaking.
Claim 5: There are no health reasons to avoid animal foods
Reblogging with the additional note that Soycrates is much better at this sort of thing than I am; while her response was to thoroughly explain why the article is wrong, my response was to literally punch my laptop.